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# Listening to a non-church-goer
- URL: https://www.dashhouse.com/2003516listening-to-a-non-church-goer-html/
- Published: 2003-05-16T00:28:44.000Z
- Updated: 2022-08-15T15:43:57.000Z
- Author: Darryl Dash
- Tags: Blog, Uncategorized, #DashHouseCom, #wp

[Some good thoughts here.](http://www.cre8d-design.com/journal/2003%5F05%5F16.php?ref=dashhouse.com#000545) Erwin McManus says that most churches have lost the essence of what it means to be a church. I agree. I’m cautiously optimistic about more loosely formed groups of believers meeting to *be* the church. I think I’d want to read the pastoral epistles (Timothy, Titus) to recognize that there is a role for leaders. There’s always a danger of throwing out too much in an effort to return to the essence. Buildings, programs, much in our churches that must grieve God’s heart – good, let it go. But let’s not think that two or three people who get together for coffee occasionally (as an example) is an adequate replacement. Let the discussion continue! (I think [Rachel](http://www.cre8d-design.com/journal/?ref=dashhouse.com) should write a book…)